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B-Rex's avatar

God speed your work Frank. This is a vital issue and I am glad you are helping bring it to light

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Frank Wright's avatar

Thank you B-Rex! Support for surrogacy is evaporating- US media has picked it up - there’s only bad news from this evil business. With so much going on and competing for attention here’s one issue that you can solve, rather than just bewail - by simply showing people the truth about it. It’s toxic.

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MaryCW's avatar

I was hoping to find a petition to sign. I don't think people - including "good" Catholics are aware that so many foetuses die in this process!!! So it equivalent to abortion or killing babies.

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Te Reagan's avatar

I could be wrong, but I think traditionally children have always been considered property.

Parallel this situation to the government wanting control over the nations children.

I wonder if these kids can come back later and sue all the people involved?

Same with trans kids..

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Frank Wright's avatar

The 1993 US case I cite established the legal right of ownership of the buyer from the moment of fertilisation. From this flowed equality of property rights to queers, with the first agency supplying babies to gay men set up two years later in 1995 (Circle Surrogacy, John Weltman).

The UN report of last July concluded with a call to ban surrogacy worldwide, seize the assets of all those in the industry and prosecute them all for the crime of selling children.

I think that’s the moderate option but it’s feasible.

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Te Reagan's avatar

I had a gay boss in the late nineties. He was a super nice guy. He lived with a guy and called him husband. He freely let me know he was a bottom person. I ask him what that meant. He explained bottom and topper roles to me.

One day out of the blue, he asked me if I consider being a surrogate. I didn’t know what to say. I remember asking if that was even possible. And he said yes and laid it all out there. He had a plan. I moved on and found another job. Better job.

Today, he and his husband. Yes, they got married. They have a little boy. Via surrogate.

I see them in FB. They appear to live their lives like a heterosexual couple. But, that little boy. We have no idea how this is going to affect these children who will eventually become adults. No. Love is love is something to be used as a weapon.

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Frank Wright's avatar

The UN report said women were exploited in order to persuade them to sell babies to gay men, by manipulating their compassion into "solidarity" with homosexualists. In other words, guilt tripping them into hiring their wombs out to sell babies to men.

Any residual sense of solidarity or compassion for the homosexual male lifestyle is dissolved by contact with the reality of it.

It is knowledge of the homosexual male lifestyle which produces the disgust reflex, and the more you know of it the more disgusting it is. It is not ignorance, but facts such as those presented in Gabriel Rotello's account of the gay male lifestyle.

In his "Sexual Ecology: AIDS and the Destiny of Gay Men" he details in unforgettable precision the practices which typify this life, which of course is one in which a man's sexual perversions are so powerful that he comes to base his identity and morality on them. If you want an antidote to the voodoo curse of "homophobia" here it is.

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Sage Alfields's avatar

No idea how this got attached to the wrong thread. Pls ignore.

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Sage Alfields's avatar

Putting aside the larger issues: why would you ever want a baby that is at least 50% prostitute by genome? Seems like a bad investment.

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Frank Wright's avatar

The embryos are implanted in the surrogates who usually aren’t related to the babies produced. The eggs are bought from a female donor - for now - and most surrogacy (95% ish) is ivf, so fertilised with donor sperm in a lab.

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Sage Alfields's avatar

Still gets their gross epigenome on my designer babies.

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