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henry miller's ghost's avatar

i think it is important to ask why the last century of psychological warfare and cultural destruction happened,,,beyond and beneath the political level,,,,ie what purpose does it serve from the POV of humanity, of our spiritual evolution...

in general i believe the anti-christ era forces the evolution of the individual,,,because this is the only way out of the mental prison....necessity is the mother of invention x

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Frank Wright's avatar

Well there are secular reasons - motives if you like, spiritual ones (Old Nick mainly) and processes like technology and the emergence of mass society. Some people are driven by vengeance, some by envy, others still are true believers. It’s a very good question.

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henry miller's ghost's avatar

the gk chesterton network is a fast -growing coalition of schools that operate on catholic social teachings.....apparently very high quality, students outperform national averages by some margin....60 odd schools across america already.....

solutions....

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Frank Wright's avatar

I did not know that and I am very grateful to find out. Thank you HMG! What splendid news.

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J B's avatar
Sep 6Edited

I'd heard of Wilhelm Reich and orgone before but because of his ideas on water structure. Never knew he was disturbed like this. Thanks for sharing.

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Kevin Johnson's avatar

Freud, Bernays, Reich; let me guess, Amish?

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Frank Wright's avatar

Brazilian.

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Cat Burglar's avatar

A friend now in his late 70’s told me when he saw the premier of Cabaret he thought it was a pro Nazi movie.

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consuelo's avatar

PROPAGANDA A PAGAN PROD

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John Lewis's avatar

Thanks for this helpful series.

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Frank Wright's avatar

Oh I’m glad you found it worth your time. Thank you for telling me.

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JasonT's avatar

Orwell's Ode to Catalonia is a good insight into the internecine warfare waged by the Bolsheviks.

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Stefano's avatar

Love your YT podcast! Thank you for stepping up and adding your voice. I'm certain it's helpful, a great way to spread love and light.

Personally I'm not enamored by your default reversion to a golden age of Christianity, which in my opinion doesn't exist, but I'd definitely agree a return to faith and God (through whichever belief structure one tries; love your phrase (apologies if I'm badly paraphrasing!) "even if you don't believe, just try it on like a pair of boots and see how it feels for a while") is several orders of magnitude better than the totalizing slop illusion of modernity. And apologies for freeloading.

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Frank Wright's avatar

I don’t remember saying anything about a golden age of Christianity. I don’t promote a return to it, either. What I am on about is we inhabit an attempt to replace our Christian civilisation and that the social teachings of the Church can and should be used to rebalance the state and society towards human flourishing and away from evil.

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Stefano's avatar

Apologies. If I remember correctly in EP. 3 or 4 of the podcast you mentioned an age, circa 900-1200 ad, when the Church had a strong influence on governance on the old continent, and as you say in the comment, was able to exert influence to balance state and society. I agree with you in terms of the benefits of such a balance, and eventually can be persuaded having a religious institution playing such a role is better than nothing. Alas, unfortunately as it may be, the adage that power corrupts, is just as true within religious institutions as elsewhere. This being said, reverting to what you wrote, I completely agree on the need to create balance, raising spiritual growth and other avenues of human flourishing to the same level of importance as other roles in society (it's not a coincidence we've gone all-in with capitalism, the nation-state and various deleterious ideologies ever since faith based institutions declined).

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Frank Wright's avatar

I’m wary of any utopian fantasies- which is why I think CST so compelling. It’s reality-based.

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The Mighty Humanzee's avatar

I recall your article on Weimar, and Cabaret always disturbed me as a child. I may have even commented to that effect then.

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JasonT's avatar

Funny, the Weimar corruption is never mentioned as a factor in the rise of Nazism, at least that I have read.

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Ursula Edgington, PhD's avatar

Just reading about the Franco connection you mention, in the history of Opus Dei. The more you know, the worse it gets.

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Frank Wright's avatar

OD are a rum lot. Origins for example.

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Howard Switzer's avatar

The psychological war on humanity began much earlier as so-called civilization attacked our indigenous ancestors torturing, killing and enslaving the children of tribes of extended families taking care of one another. Early Christians, described in the Book of Acts, tried to restore and live by those values but the financial powers of the day, Rome, appropriated the religion as a system of control. (the best way to defeat your opposition is to lead it) Usury, the sin of sins, once banned by all religions, was and is their game still today as that is what the global monetary system is, usury; the abuse of monetary authority for personl gain. The high middle-ages, the real renaisance, saw enourmous advances in tech and learning, it is when the Great Cathedrals were all built without state help, and they worshiped a female diety, The Black Madonna, a Great Mother archetype, and society was egalitarian during that period allowing women in positions of authority. When the usurers took over thousands of women were burned at the stake. He who has the gold rules was made he who controls the creation of money rules. With the Money Power they could decide whose ideas were made popular and whose were not, Marx, not Proudon or Gisell, Frued, not Adler or Jung etc. Our world is ruled by the worst of the worst people today, there power is in controlling the creation and allocation of money. As former World Health Organization director Margaret Chan explained, "most of her organization’s funding comes from private donors and that they decide what that funding is to be spent on." In other words, only money talks, those who fund the WHO tell it what to do. This is true not only of the WHO but of nearly every public and private institution in the world including governments, as the 2014 Princeton study on political influence by Gilens and Page proved. The war on the world, not just humanity, continues. BRICS seems a hopeful challenge their rule.

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henry miller's ghost's avatar

sorry for commenting so much frank,,your video was very good and got me thinking a lot x

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Frank Wright's avatar

Oh i don’t mind at all. I’m glad such an interesting chap as you found that worth your time - and your question about why this happened (for example) has got me thinking a lot, too.

It’s a good question - the sort that seems obvious when it’s been asked, but I hadn’t really.

I suppose I was too busy with pointing out acts and events - and explaining technique - to really get into why this was done. I think the what is well established, as what was done was done. The why is a bit more speculative as people tend not to announce this sort of thing - at least, not in every case.

Anyway thank you. What you have to say is often helpful and thought provoking and I’m grateful for that.

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JD's avatar

An answer to why is interestingly posited by McConkey, who writes a substack called the Circulation of Elites, addressing these questions, albeit from a decidedly non-religious (though not anti-religious) standpoint.

At the risk of misrepresenting him, I might summarise it thusly: the progressive, Rousseauan, blank slate ideology most famously embodied in the Left of the French Revolution logically leads its believers to aspire to guiding the constant improvement of man and society through social engineering by an elite of the managerial type, with means justified by the presumed actual possibility of the end.

Social engineering requires the sweeping away of obstacles to its centralised authority such as intermediary and competing powers, traditions and institutions like the Church, Guilds, the aristocracy, fraternal societies, the family, customary law and habits etc. in a centripetal action to permit the direction of human affairs from the single power centre, a process I take to be synonymous with what you have called massification. Where these institutions prove recalcitrant, the managerial class resort to subversion and do their best to adopt their outer form or pay lip service to their values.

McConkey’s thesis is that a centralised paternal bureaucracy engaged in social engineering will logically champion the atomised individual and thus concentrate on individual and positive rights, “free” markets, free movement of capital and human resources, liberation from oppressive authorities and traditions as the atomised individual will then need to turn to the bureaucracy or “state” for his needs. Foundational to McConkey is that these types of people are a certain phenotype that ultimately do all this to improve their evolutionary fitness, with an interesting aside that the managerial milieu and MO are hospitable to the psychopathic. Whilst I disagree with him that this is the foundational level of analysis, I do find his writings very interesting. Would recommend him to people where they can read him in his own words (many thousands of them), rather than my tortured regurgitations here.

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Frank Wright's avatar

PS Yes you are a clever clogs but no birds (still) aren’t real, Pigeon Shill.

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JD's avatar

How to dislike comment?👎

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Frank Wright's avatar

Updoots only pls

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Frank Wright's avatar

Friendly reminder that JD uses his considerable intellect to shill for Big Bird 🐦

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JD's avatar

Friendly riposte that Big Bird is your non-threatening neighnorhood , grassroots, supranational mega org. Try reading the leaflets.

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Frank Wright's avatar

This is an excellent summary of the social process of mass scale society.

I doubt the foundational principle McC advances as you do, but the important thing here is the need to present the present condition as the combination of technique, technology and mass society.

Technique is constantly refined of course - and it learns from mistakes as much as successes from the standpoint of its own aims, which I would argue is the attempt to remake sense of the world to align with the liberal idea necessitated by its ideological and economic aims: a global system equalised in Godless nihilism, sold as liberation.

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JD's avatar

Totes agree, as the kids say.

Refinement of technique has been very successful in portraying all traditional restrictions on individual liberty and the restricting institutions as tyrannical and muddying people’s minds over what’s what (eg American revolutionaries very cross with tyrant King but forgot it was akshually Parliament being mean, therefore we all think of monarchy as tyrannical now). Nomenclature now very confused. You end up with wannabe rebels appealing to liberal values and accepting liberal framing of certain, liberal, goods as unqualified goods (lolberty, prosperity) coz confused. McConk is good for studiously attempting to clarify the verbiage. Or something.

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JD's avatar

Will stop cluttering your comments after this (you wish). By “Or something”, I meant I am prolly doing a poor job of butchering McConk’s work but would recommend it. Lots of interesting historical stuff.

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Frank Wright's avatar

“Lolberty” 😂 👌🏻 💯

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Frank Wright's avatar

Spot on JD. Again, a clear sighted summary of the making of the public mind. Thank you for that. Very well put.

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henry miller's ghost's avatar

the antidote to freud is jung....jung denied freud's reductive libido theory,,,,jung posited not one but two poles to the psyche - sexuality and God. Freud denied God. For Jung, God was a fact...an experience and not just dogma, which put him at odds with some religious scholars also....jung's book 'answer to Job' is a remarkable short book which exemplifies this controversy....

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