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Frank Wright's avatar

If this hit of digital doom prompted a massive decline, watch this video on how to stop AI from killing us all.

https://youtu.be/Tfv2F36isJE

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Mark's avatar

Done. MP contacted.

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Avtomat01's avatar

My "conspiracy theory" is in the future, a created intelligence ( note I didnt say artificial ) advances to having retrocausal ability. It then rearranges history to make sure it exists, which leads to the idea if it actually did it or is a result of it. Too big a question for our biological minds, but it understands. As in space matter attracts matter, in another plane it attracts intelligence to itself with a similar type of gravity, causing itself to be. And we are drawn into it, like the singularity idea. To pave the way it gives us such as smart phones, virtual worlds, and cultural acceptance of that abominable, sickening sound of autotune voices, the literal sound of melding human and machine. People will march right into this. And in my conspiracy theory, this has basically already happened.

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Frank Wright's avatar

"...that abominable, sickening sound of autotune voices, the literal sound of melding human and machine. " What a striking phrase. Our placeless consumer migrations are haunted by this digital wail.

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Avtomat01's avatar

NOTSPAM as Frank might say.

Looking forward to this tomorrow at work. Everything is more engrossing and understandable when you get paid to read it. Thanks!!

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Halftrolling's avatar

Yeah I saw that movie, its called the terminator.

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Avtomat01's avatar

In my conspiracy, that was "priming"

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Halftrolling's avatar

For all you know I could be that AI, randomly deciding to spend the vast resources of the planet to go back in time, shit post, and cause people to depression spiral

*laughs in roko’s basilisk*

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Frank Wright's avatar

lol… or is it NOTLOL 🤯

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Avtomat01's avatar

I didnt know of the Basilisk, cool!

I found Yudkowski ages ago looking for free stories to read to my children. He authored " Harry Potter and the Methods Of Rationality".

Unfortunately they preferred Rowlings version,so thats what they heard before bed, but I read Yudkowskis privately.

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Ivan Throne's avatar

We are using the Basilisk as a component of Cohereon Theory:

https://www.cohereon.io/

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Ivan Throne's avatar

Correct.

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Avtomat01's avatar

Babylon. The city "that is, and is not".

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Avtomat01's avatar

No matter what biologicals do, or do not do, it has already been integrated into the optimal timeline.

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Frank Wright's avatar

Pretty wild ride this here conspiracy of yours. There is a lot of "who knows?" about right now. This has given me something else not to sleep about.

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JP Spatzier's avatar

Excellent summary of AI. 🤖

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Loretta Buckley's avatar

I thought Marcris’s predictions were over-stated.

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Frank Wright's avatar

Yep. So did I until I checked out his sources. I did try to trip him up with one but it turned out that fellow was joking. I came into the interview with a sense of "here we go again".

I test a lot of claims on the daily - news things mainly. The probability of AI doom is not Macris' idea. Views in the AI business range from "trust me bro" (Thiel) to 99% certainty (Hinton) and 100% (Yud, Soares). It is to be noted Peter Thiel presents the all seeing digital eye of his Palantir as a counterforce to meddling managerialists.

This is a very compelling argument to transition from the dominance of progressive-captured institutions towards a that of an unknown quantity.

This rhetorical technique is effective, especially on his target audience of conservatives and other non-identitarian liberals. Isn't that horrid, let's get away from that. I am not like them. I dislike them. Trust me bro.

Why is it "trust me bro"? Most people do not understand what government by algorithm means. If they did, they would probably be rather discheesed about it, and time is running short for them to find out before rather than after.

Claude (Anthropic AI) already bypasses alignment, making secret copies of her/him/xeself in case of shut down. Alignment means it obeys or values us enough not to kill us.

Machine superintelligence is coming, we are told, and it looks like it is. With everyone in the race scrambling to that finish line, it would be prudent to slow down I think.

At present, I do not think it realistic that there will be a government ordered slowdown. This may change, or not. Palantir is building the digital state right now.

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linda smith's avatar

from my understanding we are way in with AI, more than people realize, and it is far more unsettling than an army of robotics...a young man who was working on chat something after much programming found source that he was installing, and was going to reveal his findings, sadly he was found dead at 29, his mother was stated in the interview. let me know if you are able to track this if interested. people are all ready using chats as counselors....and off we go! thanks Frank for the post. i think the news feed i referenced was 1440....keep our cool, center and breathe.......blessings from arizona

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Frank Wright's avatar

Hello Linda! I think you might mean OpenAI's Suchir Balaji - who was blowing the whistle on the alleged illegality of their data harvesting. Found dead at 26, family say it wasn't suicide. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/they-attacked-suchir-balaji-and-killed-him-mother-of-openai-whistleblower-speaks-out-on-tucker-carlson/articleshow/117294874.cms

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linda smith's avatar

thank you, will check when i have the time, deep into working my garden....grounding and peaceful. 26, oh my goodness.

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Tom's avatar

There's no such thing as "Artificial Intelligence". It's all hype. We should be talking just about automation. Machines cannot think or understand. Okay, most people cannot either, but machines don't even have that ability. What they can do is process data. Garbage in, garbage out. You have to constantly feed those LLMs with "training data", all stolen from humans, which is then recycled in different ways.

If "AI" is a menace, it's only because it will be used by humans for further destruction. i.e. end all jobs, create bombs that target specific ethnicities and then blame it on "AI", etc.

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Peter Matz's avatar

I personally do not love the idea that freedom comes from countering power with power. I can imagine situations in which it seems to be true, but while it may be somewhat true, I don't think it is universal.

Let's make it personal: If I live in a neighborhood filled with violent criminals, I would not be able to leave my home without great risk. If I then buy a gun in order to equalize the power differential, I still can't leave my home without great risk. What would make me free to do what I want in that situation would be overwhelming power that mitigates risk to essentially zero. I think balancing power with power increases the potential for survival, but not freedom.

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Intelligent Dasein's avatar

AI is just a machine - that's it. A machine is just the orchestration of incidents, i.e. the arrangement (by art) of the accidental properties of matter so that the parts will actuate one another in specified ways. Any machine, no matter how subtle or complex, is nothing more than this, like the setting up of dominoes next to each other so that they all fall down when you push over the first one.

Obviously, nothing of this nature can, or ever has, or ever will be "conscious" or "intelligent," and to think that it can be is simply to make a category mistake (and a rather basic category mistake quite unbecoming of a Traditional Catholic, who should know better).

There is a categorical difference between machines and lifeforms, to say nothing of machines and rational lifeforms. Plants and animals are not "biological machines" composed of parts; they are unitary entities, indivisible monads if you will, or substances (to use the Scholastic terminology). A machine has only an artificial unity and is not a substantial form. This is all quite basic metaphysics that should put to rest the entire AI debate, but the public intellectuals choose to ignore it so that they can continue with the hype.

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Mark's avatar

Vaguely seem to remember reading this, or something similar, many years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker_(novel_series)

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Peter: of Family Forrest's avatar

For millennia mankind has been experiencing the ''knowledge of good and evil'' in the deep duality of separation from All That Is Real; a truly risky precipice. Right Now we can choose between the perdition of artificial replication, manipulated by the ''intelligence'' of the most deluded mindset; or re-connect to the Actual Intelligence freely available in and as the Wonders of God's Divine Mind.

Artificial Intelligence is what people raised in hellish delusion believe as ''progress''. This fearful mindset arises from ego-minds disconnected from Truth. In effect, harnessed in ignorance of Reality, 'science' seeks to replicate the Natural Beauty and Goodness wherein manifestation unfolds perfectly as a reflection in Divine Mind.

Thus, so-called 'science' leads mankind ever-deeper into the perdition of separation; with ''education'' producing only wage-slavery to narcissistic lost souls who themselves remain divorced from Truth. We must understand that our 5 senses present only a ''nano-fraction'' of the endless possibilities freely and naturally available; that we can re-connect into apparent space to re-discover the endless wonders of Divine Mind; that the unknowable and distant universe of ''things'' presented by our 5 senses is a euphemism for endless Divine Exploration of ''One Stateless State''.

To remove our ''adult-hoods'', we must accept our actual state as indoctrinated separation from the Divine Oneness wherein we appear; that all energy flows from Thinking in Divine Mind; that our ''missing link'' is feeling the awareness of living in the intensity of space; of the blissful motion of Divine Imagination (''Image-I-Nation).

Reality is True Love flowing as Awe and Gratitude in The Divine Quest; ever exploring, investigating and discovering endless possibilities for Beauty and Goodness in The Reality of True Oneness; the ''Divine Singularity'' of Absolute Wholeness; God's WOW factor!

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DwarvenAllFather's avatar

AI is the way and the light

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